Lesson Learned: Cultivate trust and respect with competitors

Find out how NYC agent Andrea Saturno-Sanjana puts her unique skillset and global perspective to work in serving clients and connecting with colleagues.

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With a global perspective cultivated while living in Hong Kong, London and Washington, D.C., and 25 years in residence in New York City, Andrea Saturno-Sanjana calls herself “an NYC insider with an outsider’s frame of reference.” That gives her a perspective that allows her to identify opportunities, both for her business and for her clients.

With three degrees from three continents in the fields of international relations, public administration and law, Saturno-Sanjana’s background informs her approach to serving her clients’ interests. Find out how she puts her unique skillset to work in connecting with both clients and colleagues.

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Name: Andrea Saturno-Sanjana

Title: Licensed associate real estate broker

Experience: 12 years

Location: New York City

Brokerage name: Coldwell Banker Warburg

Sales volume: $70 million (excluding rentals)

1. What’s one big lesson you’ve learned in real estate?

Real estate is a unique environment in that your colleagues and co-brokers are also your competitors. It might seem counterintuitive to trust your competitors, yet building strong professional relationships based on trust and mutual respect will pay dividends in the long run.

In addition to sending and receiving referrals to colleagues in other markets who share the same work ethic, good agents on either side of a transaction often work together for the mutual benefit of their respective clients.

2. What’s the most important thing you learned in school or in your prelicensing classes?

Coming from a strong educational background, I knew for my real estate prelicensing classes I would be most comfortable in a university setting. Professor Bob Wiesenfeld at CUNY’s Baruch College made certain to include practical examples of what we students could expect to experience as real estate agents and how to prepare for common challenges we might face — all within the context of guiding us towards an ethical practice of real estate.

When it comes to real estate, much learning comes from actually working in the business, which is somewhat removed from merely mastering the material to pass the licensing exam. The practical knowledge Bob imparted with his examples and vignettes allowed me to begin my real estate business from the first day with both insight and confidence.

3. What’s the best advice you ever got from a mentor or colleague?

“Focus on providing the best knowledge and service you can to your clients, then the transactions and commissions will flow naturally from that approach.” When I was just starting out in real estate, this advice came from my husband, Conal, with his over 20 years of experience as a relationship-based institutional equity salesman in the investment banking industry.

4. What would you tell a new agent before they start out in the business?

You are starting a business. The average new restaurant or other small business only turns a profit in the second year. As with any successful business, you can expect to spend money and time building your business first and will need to plan accordingly. This is even more important in the current era of popular real estate shows, which provide drama and entertainment but not necessarily an accurate picture of what it is like to work in the industry.

5. What do clients need to know before they begin a real estate transaction?

Before beginning a real estate transaction, clients should know their own preferred communication style — how they want to give and receive information in the way that makes the most sense for them — and share this style preference with their real estate agent. 

Real estate transactions are detailed and involve the coordination of the activities of many professionals (e.g., attorney or title company, lender, appraiser, home inspector, architect, contractor, stager, photographer). The real estate agent can present information in their client’s preferred style so their client is fully informed but not overwhelmed and thus make the transaction as smooth and stress-free as possible.

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3 things to consider in today’s ‘golden age of M&As’

In today’s real estate market, mergers and acquisitions have become increasingly valued and important for brokerage leaders. Whether you’re a longtime franchisee thinking about the next chapter of your journey or a savvy entrepreneur looking to drive growth, there are fundamental shifts happening in the industry to keep in mind should you be considering going down this route. Let’s break a few of these down.

Aging ownership

Throughout my nearly 30 years in this business, I have marveled at the incredible entrepreneurs I have met along the way. So many have been in the industry for 30, 40 and even 50 years, having built their companies from scratch. While much of that time was spent building market share and empowering agents to provide their clients with the dream of homeownership, now may be the time that many look toward their next phase in life.

If you’re one of those looking ahead to what’s next, stepping completely away from real estate may not be what you want. Finding the right merger and acquisition for your company can provide that unique opportunity to stay involved by moving from a leadership role to a practitioner role while keeping your business and legacy intact.

A new growth-focused generation

As we see one generation of broker/owners looking to wind down their businesses, we also have the next one coming along with different views on brokerage operations. These new leaders are not only looking at how they can quickly increase local market share but also how they can expand their footprint by acquiring companies in a new, non-contiguous market. They are seeing the industry as almost borderless – a new phenomenon for many.

Much of this cross-market success can now be achieved largely because of the technology you have at your disposal. By creating a hub and spoke model with back-office services based in one location, you are able to potentially eliminate excess overhead in that new market and actually, in many cases, provide better services for those agents.

It’s all about scale now because companies with the right technology and great operating structures may be able to service 100 agents or 1000 without adding expenses. The greater the scale, the more potentially profitable you can be.

Fewer mid-sized brokerages

That brings us to the third major shift — consolidation is big, and it’s real. In real estate today, it’s very difficult to be a middle-of-the-road independent company like we had for generations. Instead, we’re seeing more success for companies that are either looking to be really big or those who are focused on remaining small and niche. It’s very challenging to play in the middle. Why? Primarily because of the cost of technology, compliance and continuing education issues.  The real estate landscape is changing every day, and companies are struggling to keep up. Profit margins have also become extremely tight. Those in the middle often can’t compete with larger players who have the ability and resources to scale up and benefit from reduced overhead.

Is a merger and acquisition the right move for you?

Merger and acquisition support is a part of our brand’s value proposition.  We can assist you by helping to navigate the process.  You should always have a trusted financial and legal advisor in your corner, as many transactions are very complex. 

A typical merger and acquisition will take anywhere from nine to 15 months to get done, so you want to start the conversations about two years in advance. When looking at a potential company, you need to take a deep dive into the numbers, a company’s structure, and the entirety of both operations. In addition to dollars and cents, cultural fit is a major component of the vetting process. You’ll want the right team to guide you through this process.

From my perspective, there is no greater joy than working with a company to fuel future exponential growth.

Dot your i’s and cross your t’s. The paper chase is here: The Download

Ed Zorn, Anthony Lamacchia and others weigh in on buyer agreements, commission sharing and everything you need to know about the new forms.

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Each week on The Download, Inman’s Christy Murdock takes a deeper look at the top-read stories of the week to give you what you’ll need to meet Monday head-on. This week: Ed Zorn, Anthony Lamacchia and others weigh in on buyer agreements, commission sharing and everything you need to know about the new forms.

“How will you communicate offers of compensation?”

“Are you still using MLS PIN?”

“Are you going to allow broker-to-broker sharing of commissions?”

This week, broker Anthony Lamacchia shared just some of the questions he’s hearing right now as the Aug. 17 implementation date approaches.

“There’s a little bit of this awkward period of, ‘Well, what do we do?’” Lamacchia said.

The time has come to make sure you have an answer to that question.

Whether you’re taking a class at the local association, sitting in training at your brokerage or asking your favorite mentor for advice, this is the time the rubber meets the road. Part of being a real estate expert is knowing your forms backward and forward and answering client questions. That means getting up to speed on paperwork, policies and the logic behind the changes.

That being the case, in this week’s Download, we’re bringing you resources, expertise and thought leadership that’s all about getting your ducks in a row for the real-world shifts ahead.

In the first in a two-part interview with California Regional MLS General Counsel Ed Zorn, Inman’s Andrea V. Brambila discussed impending changes to the commission structure and how it will impact agents.

Zorn is not only the vice president and general counsel of the nation’s largest multiple listing service, California Regional MLS, he is also president of real estate investment firm ZEC Investments, a mediator and arbitrator of real estate disputes, and a former adjunct professor of real estate at California Baptist University.

He held a California broker license for many years until it expired in 2022, and has held a broker affiliate license under eXp Realty in Tennessee since 2019.

In the Q&A, Zorn talked about his upcoming appearance at Inman Connect Las Vegas, which will lean into practical, actionable strategies to ensure agents are on the right page when it comes to the nuts and bolts of paperwork and transaction management.

“We’re going to be doing some live role-playing: buyer and seller objections post-Aug. 17,” Zorn said. “James [Dwiggins] is going to moderate and the three of us are going to give examples of “This is what my listing presentation would look like.” “This is how I would communicate things with a buyer.” James will hit us with questions: How would you overcome this objection? Or, what if a seller says, “I don’t want to pay anything?” How do you handle that?”

EXTRA: Ed Zorn to the real estate industry: Get rid of commission-sharing now (Part 2)

The back-and-forth, will-they-won’t-they of industry changes is coming to a head in less than a month. Are you ready? At this point, you need to lock in what you’ll say to buyers and sellers, how you’ll talk about commissions and you need to make sure you know every detail of your new paperwork. Inman contributors are offering plenty of detailed advice to keep you compliant and client-focused.

27 resources you’ll need to be ready for the Aug. 17 transition

Consider this a resource roundup to guide you through the changes you’ll make, the client conversations and even the mindset shifts that are necessary right now.

Commission Crunch: 5 tips to avoid scrutiny and remain in compliance

Clients are watching you now more than ever, compliance expert Summer Goralik writes. Here’s how to implement best practices now, so you can avoid complaints as the industry shifts.

Can you hear me now? Why your clients miss 50% of what you say

Less talk, and more listening. Inman contributing writer Rachael Hite shares the real reason your transactions turn topsy turvy — and why it has everything to do with what’s lost in translation.

20 phone etiquette rules every real estate agent should follow

Christy Murdock shares essential phone etiquette tips to enhance client relationships and close more deals. Learn the do’s and don’ts, preparation strategies and follow-up techniques in her comprehensive guide.

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Effective communication is more crucial than ever for building and maintaining client relationships, closing deals and establishing a professional reputation. Proper phone etiquette plays a significant role in an effective communication process. 

As a real estate agent, your phone manner can leave a lasting impression. It can help you develop — or lose — trust and influence how clients perceive you and your services. These essential phone etiquette tips will help you reach out with confidence.

Preparing for the call

Before making a call, it’s important to be well-prepared. Research the person or company you are calling to understand their background and needs. This can include reviewing client files, recent property listings in a neighborhood or any prior communications. For instance, if you are calling a buyer lead, familiarize yourself with their property preferences and budget.

  • Agenda setting: Have a clear purpose for the call. Outline the key points you want to discuss, such as property details, appointment scheduling or follow-up on a previous conversation.
  • Environment: Ensure you are in a quiet place with a good phone connection. Background noise can be distracting and unprofessional.

Beginning the call

How you start a call sets the tone for the entire conversation.

  • Greeting and introduction: Always start with a polite greeting and introduce yourself. For example, “Good morning, this is [your name] from [your real estate brokerage]. How are you today?” Then, actually listen to the response. You’ll pick up valuable insights into their mood, concerns and state of mind.
  • Identity confirmation: If this is the first time you’re reaching out, or the first time in a long while, confirm you are speaking with the correct person. You don’t want to discuss sensitive information or financial details with the wrong person.

During the call

Maintaining professionalism throughout the call is essential.

  • Active listening: Show that you are listening by using verbal indicators, like “I see” or “That makes sense.” Summarize key points to confirm understanding. For example, “So, you’re looking for a three-bedroom house in the downtown area, correct?”
  • Clear communication: Speak clearly and at a moderate pace. Avoid industry jargon unless you are certain the other person understands it. For example, instead of saying, “The cap rate on this property is 5 percent,” you might say, “The projected return on this property is 5 percent per year.”
  • Professional tone: Maintain a friendly yet professional tone. Avoid slang and overly casual language unless you know the other person well. For example, instead of saying, “Hey, what’s up?” use, “Hello, how can I assist you today?”
  • Handling difficult situations: Stay calm and composed if the conversation becomes challenging. Use phrases like, “I understand your concerns” and, “Let’s find a solution together.”

Ending the call

Closing the call properly leaves a positive final impression.

  • Summarize key points: Recap the main points discussed and any agreed-upon action items. For example, “To confirm, I’ll email you the property listings by the end of the day, and we’ll schedule a viewing for next Tuesday between the hours of 2 and 5 p.m.”
  • Express gratitude: Thank the person for their time. For example, “Thank you for speaking with me today. I look forward to assisting you further.”
  • Proper closure: Close the conversation politely, such as, “Goodbye” or, “Have a great day,” and wait for the other person to hang up first.

Following up

Following up after a call reinforces professionalism and reliability.

  • Follow-up email: Send a summary of the call, including any next steps or appointments. For example, “Thank you for our conversation today. As discussed, here are the property listings that match your criteria. Please let me know your availability for a viewing.”
  • Timeliness: Ensure the follow-up is timely, ideally within 24 hours.

Common phone etiquette mistakes to avoid

Being aware of common phone etiquette mistakes can help you avoid them.

  • Interrupting the caller: Let the other person finish speaking before you respond. Interruptions can seem rude and dismissive.
  • Background noise: Make sure there are no distracting noises in your environment. For example, avoid taking calls in a noisy café or while driving.
  • Unclear communication: Avoid mumbling or speaking too quickly. Clear and concise communication is key to professionalism.

Virtual calls (Zoom, Skype, Teams, FaceTime)

With the near-ubiquity of virtual meetings, it’s important to adapt phone etiquette to video calls.

  • Stable connection and good lighting: Ensure your internet connection is stable and your face is well-lit. Poor lighting and connectivity issues can distract from the conversation.
  • Mute when not speaking: To avoid background noise, mute yourself when you’re not speaking.
  • Professional background: Use a neutral background or a professional virtual background. Try to avoid distractions in the background like a spinning ceiling fan or the light from a window.
  • Backup plan: Know what you’ll do if your power or WiFi signal goes out. If you were planning to share a presentation, have a PDF of your graphics or shoot a quick video and send it via text or email instead. Be sure to follow up to see if there are any questions or concerns.

Good phone etiquette is vital for real estate agents looking to build strong professional relationships and provide excellent customer service. Proper preparation, professionalism and follow-up can leave a lasting positive impression on clients and colleagues alike. Implement these tips to enhance your communication skills and succeed during every conversation.

Aspen Valley Ranch, Colorado property sold in pieces for $47M

Aspen Valley Ranch, previously owned by Tellurian co-founder Charif Souki, has been sold in pieces after hitting the market for $220 million, “The Wall Street Journal” reported on Thursday.

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Aspen Valley Ranch, previously owned by Tellurian co-founder and natural gas pioneer Charif Souki, has been sold in pieces after hitting the market for $220 million in 2020, The Wall Street Journal reported on Thursday.

A year after the lavish Colorado ranch was listed, two homes on the 830-acre property were sold for $47 million. Souki ended up in a legal battle with lenders, losing control of the remainder of the property.

In January, lenders bought that property out of bankruptcy for $30.5 million, public records show. Five months later, Bay Point Advisors, an Atlanta-based hedge fund, purchased 300 acres of the ranch from Souki’s lenders, company officials said.

According to Bay Point President and Chief Investment Officer Charles Andros, Bay Point intends to finance the construction of future homes to be built on the property.

“We’re going to end up selling them off,” Andros said.

Souki purchased the property back in 2013 for $27 million. He spent millions building homes and ultimately a “mini-country club” on the ranch where he lived with his family, Souki told The Wall Street Journal. Once construction was complete, he intended to sell the ranch.

After defaulting on over $100 million in loans back in 2020, creditors foreclosed on Souki’s assets and sold them, the ranch included.

According to Andros, Aspen Valley Ranch, located roughly 10 miles from Aspen, consists of 11 residences among other amenities — equestrian facilities, a swimming pool, and a repurposed historic barn for recreational activities.

Bay Point owns five home sites and three homes, one of which the firm intends to put on the market– a $20 million, 5,750-square-foot residence stretching across 98 acres.

Jennifer Banner at Christie’s International Real Estate has the listing.

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Tech enables instant mortgage payments with a debit card

Payment processing technology developed by REPAY is now available to loan servicers through ICE Mortgage Technology’s Servicing Digital solution, a customer engagement and retention tool.

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Millions of homeowners could soon have the option of using a debit card to make their monthly mortgage payments instantly with the integration of payment processing technology developed by REPAY into ICE Mortgage Technology’s Servicing Digital solution.

Mortgage loan servicers typically won’t accept credit card payments because they don’t like the fees. But paying your mortgage with a debit card provides some of the advantages of a credit card — like speed, security and convenience, Atlanta-based REPAY claims.

“Debit card acceptance capabilities expand payment options for borrowers, allowing them to make payments during month-end and grace periods, which enhances their overall ability to manage finances efficiently,” REPAY said in announcing the deal Thursday. “This feature also improves the resolution of collection accounts by increasing the ability to promptly address them, and it reduces the need for slower and often costlier methods like wires or overnight payments.”

Paying your mortgage with a debit card is more convenient for borrowers than a traditional paper check or wire transfer payment, REPAY says, and pulling funds from the borrower’s account instantly means they’re less likely to get hit with late fees while also getting real-time payment confirmation. Lenders can tap stored payment data for future transactions while ensuring compliance with the Payment Card Industry Data Security Standard (PCI DSS).

REPAY processed about $25.7 billion in debit card payments last year through 262 integrations with various software providers, the company said in its most recent annual report to investors.

The integration deal with ICE Mortgage Technology will help REPAY expand the reach of its payment processing solutions beyond core verticals including personal and automotive loans, receivables management and business-to-business payments. REPAY accelerated its entry into the mortgage and healthcare payments verticals in 2020 with the acquisition of CDT Technologies, which did business as Ventanex.

Founded in 2006 by current executives John Morris and Shaler Alias, REPAY went public in a 2019 merger with a special purpose acquisition company (SPAC). Repay Holdings Corporation trades on the Nasdaq Capital Market for early-stage companies that have relatively low market capitalizations under the ticker RPAY.

ICE Mortgage Technology says its MSP loan servicing system was used by 92 mortgage and home equity servicing clients to handle more than 50 million loans last year. MSP integrates with Servicing Digital, a consumer-facing mobile app and responsive web solution that loan servicers can brand as their own.

Servicing Digital not only allows borrowers to see their loan status and make payments but serves as a “customer engagement and retention tool” by providing information about the borrower’s home equity and neighborhood property values and helping loan servicers market a new mortgage to clients who are ready to refinance or buy their next home.

Servicing software ICE Mortgage Technology’s biggest business

Source: Intercontinental Exchange Inc. quarterly earnings report

ICE’s acquisition of Black Knight in the third quarter of 2023 made it a major player in mortgage servicing technology — a new line of business that is now the biggest source of revenue for the company’s ICE Mortgage Technology segment. At $214 million in Q1 2024, mortgage servicing software generated 43 percent of ICE Mortgage Techology’s revenue for the quarter.

After surging above $1 billion in 2021 during the refinancing boom, revenue generated by mortgage origination technology declined as rising interest rates curbed borrowing activity. ICE Mortgage Technology saw revenue generated by originations technology fall by 22 percent in 2022, to $798 million, and by another 13 percent last year, to $694 million.

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